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Hello everyone to welcome back to the World of Pain podcast.
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I'm your host, and today we're talking about the three
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fronts right now that are shaping America's economy. Washington's shut down,
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the data blackout that's distorting how we measure inflation, and
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then the federal reserves balancing act of flying blind because
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between caution and collapse, they're all connected. Because when the
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government stops, data stops, and when the data stops, the
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FED begins to fly like a bat blind. We're going
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to unpack what's really happening, how both sides are spinning it,
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and what it means for your paycheck, your business, and
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your future. So buckle in. This is episode three titled
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shut Down, Data and the Fed. America's three fronts starts.
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Now here's where we stand. Let me set the stage.
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The federal government officially shut down for midnight in October first,
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twenty twenty five, the first day of the new fiscal year.
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Because the United States of America do not run their
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fiscal year with the calendar year, they run their fiscal
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year from October first to September thirtieth. Because Congress failed
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to pass even a temporary funding bill, both chambers tried,
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both failed, and now two weeks later we're feeling the consequences.
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I am going to post this at just after two
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weeks because at shutdown on midnight, I will finish recording
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this probably at exactly two weeks since shutdown. It's visible
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in empty museums, quiet offices. The Smithsodia Museums in the
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National Zoo locked their gates on October twelfth and thirteenth,
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and furlough notices have hit nearly a million federal workers.
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The White House Budget Office says the shutdown has cost
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the US economy between seven and fifteen billion every week.
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That's not imaginary money. It's miss paychecks, delayed contracts, frozen loans.
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Because you've got to remember the SBA is included in that,
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so small businesses aren't getting their loans or their grants
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that they that they need, some may need to survive,
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and nervous investors. But this shutdown is also different. Some
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agencies aren't just pausing, they're cutting. Over four thousand federal
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employees have already been terminated rather than for a load,
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something we haven't seen in modern shutdowns. Politically, this has
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become a trench. Our Republicans say the shutdown, say they're
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using the shutdown to force fiscal discipline and stop what
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they call blank check government. Democrats argue this is an
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economic sabotage, self inflicted wound that punishes workers to score
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political points. So tonight we're going to pull back the curtain.
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Who's actually responsible, what's really at stake, and how both
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sides are framing the same crisis very differently. Just to
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give you guys some context, a little bit of a timeline.
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Government officially shuts down on October first. No continuing resolution
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was what's passed. October eight through tenth eight failed Senate
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vote to reopen the government. October twelfth and thirteenth, Smithsonian
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and National Zoo closed their doors, with the symbolic impact
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in DC and National news. By October fourteenth, forty one
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hundred and eight federal employees laid off, not fur load.
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The economic impact is seven to fifteen billion per week.
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The Conservatives look at this as federal leverage, as fiscal leverage,
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using shutdown pressure to force talks on deficits, entitlement reform,
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and border funding. Selective pain does not equal collapse. Critics
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say closures are performative many essential services because stay open
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if priorities were managed. And the message is is short
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term pain for long term discipline, which I have to
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agree with to an extent. You can't sit here and
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just continue to run this government on a blank check
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where we're just gonna allow more and more debt to
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pile up. Our debt payments is one of the top
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line items on our budget. We are paying way too
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much for debt interest. We are paying way too much
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to try to pay down the principles of these debts.
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We are setting up our future generations for failure. This
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country is gonna crumble if we continue to just sit
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here and borrow, borrow, borrow. The government does. The actual
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real world does not run on blank checks. That check
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will be cashed at some point in time, and it's
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going to be a check that we can't cash. The
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liberal perspective is the government is a service, not a pawn.
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Shutdowns waste money via back pay and lost output. Real
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people suffer, Federal workers go unpaid, Programs for children and
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seniors pause, and the messages fiscal negotiation should happen through
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budget committees, not hostage situations. It's really funny that they
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say that, though, because they're the ones that are holding
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this hostage show as a clean resolution on the table
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that they could have passed just to continue to keep
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the government open while they continued the discussions. But they didn't.
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They chose to shut down the government to allow all
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these people to military, these government workers who are furloughed,
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the government workers who were laid off, They allowed for
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all this to happen. You can't sit here and tell
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me that pushing through a bill S two eight eight two,
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which was the one that they were trying to pass
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back a week ago, was packed full of bs. I
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covered it in a previous in the previous episode, episode two.
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I believe it was uh it was called. It was
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called S two eight eight two. It was about the
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Continuing Resolution and what the Democrats wanted in their bill.
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It was full of a bunch of inflammatory spending. And
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now the new Continuing Resolution is even worse. It's got
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more the more of the flamboyant burning spending that we
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cannot continue to do. The economic impact is nine hundred
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k fur load. Seven hundred thousand are working unpaid, with
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a total of one point six million affected. The NFIP
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suspension means thirty six hundred plus home closings are at
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risk daily, and that equals one point five billion in
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loss transactions. The ripple effect is local businesses in your
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national parks, museums, bases. They lose tourism and contract dollars.
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But that's not the only thing that they lose. They
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lose out on if they applied for an SBA grant,
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if they applied for grants through the USDA or any
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other any other grant giving agency that gives to small businesses,
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they're missing out on those and they might actually have
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prepaid contractors for work and now they're waiting for those
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grants to come through. So not only is the business
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missing out on that money, but the contractor that they
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hired to do the work to expand is now missing
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out on that money. It's a ripple effect that goes
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further than just the front line. The longest shutdown in
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history was in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen one. Again the
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Democrats held out to be able to get some flammatory
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spending pushed through their bills, and it costs roughly eleven
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billion dollars according to the Congressional Budget Office report, and
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this one is already rivaling that in just the two
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week loss that we've had the problem. The problems with
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the government shutdown go way further than just the amount
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of money that they that we lose. We It affects everything.
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It even affects your retirement accounts because the problem is
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is agencies like the BLS, the the Labor Board and
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stuff like that. In the census, they pause releases and
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it causes the investors to loose in the FED, to
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lose key signals. It repeated shutdowns also a road the
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international confidence in the US governance. Treasury yields can rise
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even without FED action. And the big thing with this
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too is is I just saw something the other the
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other day talking about this exact thing. Treasury yields are
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on the rise because people are looking at this shutdown.
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And we even tried to sell more in international bond markets,
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more debt because we had to pile more debt on
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for this to be able to continue spending at the
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government the way that the government does, and there was
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we struggled a little bit to sell the debt. Usually
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we don't because we're looked at as a pretty safe investment.
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And you can sit here and you can say there's
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other factors that go into that, whether it's the tariffs
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or anything like that. But if you have a government
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that shuts down for two weeks because you've got one
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side holding out when they could have continued and just
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made their payments through a clean continuing resolution that was
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that's been on the table and was on the table,
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it really changes the way you look at stuff you
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Michigan University of Michigan index often drops five to ten
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points during shutdowns. That's the consumer sentiment Consumer Sentiment Index,
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which means that people just aren't spending as much, they're
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not doing as much, they're more worried about what the
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further side effects of the of the government shutdown is
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going to be. I do want to I we're we're
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kind of through talking about the government shutdown, and I've
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covered I've covered this in depth through the S two
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eight eight two podcast. I covered it a little bit
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in the first podcast that I did, and I just
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kind of if you haven't seen those episodes, really dive
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deep if you're gonna pick one or the other, dive
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deeper into the episode two that covers S two eight
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eight two. But I want to ask you, guys, who
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do you guys blame for this shutdown? If you guys
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are on Spotify or YouTube. On Spotify, you can leave
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a comment on the episode. On YouTube, you can do
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the same thing. If you guys are listening on spreaker
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listen uh, you can leave comments on there as well.
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But just let me know what do you guys who
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do you guys blame for the shutdown? And then also
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should shutdowns be illegal as a negotiation tool or are
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they the only way to get spending under control? Let
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me know that the comments, but also through that, do
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you believe that we stop paying federal workers, we stop
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paying the military, but you know who still gets paid Congress?
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Do you believe? And please, if you're not going to
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comment on the other thing, please comment. Do you believe
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whether these people should still get paid? Do you think
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these people should be able to continue to collect their
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paycheck when they're forcing others to live without theirs? Because
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the truth is, this isn't about numbers on a spreadsheet.
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It's about trust and leadership, and that trust is a
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row on both sides, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat.
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The leadership is eroding on both sides, and the faith
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in that leadership is eroding. Before we start the start
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now back to the show. So that's kind of the
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political battle front, a shutdown costing billions and pushing Americans
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to the edge while DC dug its heels in. But
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the economic pain isn't just from lost paychecks. It's from
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lost information. When the government shuts down, the data stops flowing.
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And when the data stops flowing the flood the FED
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flies blind. And that's next the CPI delay in America's
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data blackout. When Washington shuts down, the nation doesn't just
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stop paying workers, it stops producing the numbers that drive
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the entire economy. The CPI index, or the Consumer Price
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Index as the acronym actually is, is the heartbeat America's
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data machine. It tracks what we pay for gas, rent, groceries,
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and medical bills. It shapes sec social Security COLA, or
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cost of living adjustments. It also dictates how much bond
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markets charge and interest, and determines how far paychecks really go. Normally,
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CPI arrives like clockwork on the second Wednesday of each month,
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but this year, with a shutdown freezing most of the
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Bureau of Land of Labor Statistics, September twenty five, CPI
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was pushed back to Friday, October twenty fourth, at eight
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thirty am Eastern Time. That's the first time in decades
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BOLS has had to reschedule an inflation report midyear. The
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reason many of the survey teams that gather price data
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were furloughed. Without field staff calling retailers or recording shelf prices,
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the numbers literally don't exist, and that matters because without
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CPI we can't calculate how much seniors social Security checks
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rise next January. The Treasury can adjust inflation protected bonds
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private contracts that rely on CPI clauses. Everything from rent
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escalators to labor union wage formulas all stall out. This
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is the hidden cost of a government shutdown, not just
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lost services, but lost truth. When data disappears, confidence disappears,
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and every political faction starts telling its own story. I
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just want to touch on on one thing within this.
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How is it that we're going to know what we're
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spending in social security? How are we going to know
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what to budget, what government spending on entitlement programs is
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going to be without a very important index number such
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as the CPI index. It also tells the Fed what
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they can set in what the inflation rate is, because
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that's how they make decisions whether a rate cut is
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necessary or to stay the same, or even if a
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rate rise is necessary. This is I haven't seen this
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politicized or push through enough, but it's because it's kind
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of fresh that they have actually really set a date
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to the release. But at some point in time, both
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parties need to come to the table. Both parties need
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to decide to give and take on spending. I know
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the one thing that the Democrats really want, the healthcare
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for illegals and stuff like that, which the way they
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say healthcare for illegals. It's not exactly specifically health care
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for legals. It's it's the classifications of what an eligible