Oct. 9, 2025
Two Sides Today Ep: 1 Government Shutdown, Drug Boat Destruction, National Guardians
Dive into Two Sides Today, the podcast that breaks down America’s biggest headlines from both conservative and liberal perspectives. In this episode (Week of Oct 6 2025), we unpack the U.S. government shutdown, the Supreme Court’s high-stakes new term, U.S. naval strikes near Venezuela, the constitutionality of deploying the National Guard in U.S. cities, and the debate over the Trump $1 coin. Get the facts, the arguments, and the constitutional context behind each issue. Perfect for listeners who want deep, balanced, fact-driven analysis without the spin.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the World of Pain podcast. Today,
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we're gonna start off with an episode of two Sides Today.
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This podcast kind of just breaks down what both sides
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are thinking about a topic. We're really looking to kind
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of address both sides of a story with this one,
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whether it's the federal shutdown, which is weighing pretty heavily
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on everybody's mind, or we're looking at things like the
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Supreme Court term power process in the shadow docket and
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stuff like that, or we're looking at the strikes on
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Venezuela for example. Just the different different things that are
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going on the news right now today, the shutdowns, real
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world fallout, a high stakes Supreme Court term, US strikes
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on cartel boats near Venezuela, the constitutional knife edge of
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the federal troop deployments inside US cities, and the Trump
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one dollar coin debate. We'll lay it out with verified
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facts and the best arguments we can form from right
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and left, so that way you can decide kind of
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who's what, which which side is looking at, which we'll disclose.
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I am more of a conservative leaning person, but hopefully
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I can be able to address at least the left
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leaning arguments and points of view to a certain degree,
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really were to start off with the federal shutdown, and
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let's let's kind of discuss what happens during what's happening
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with the shutdown. So the shutdown is happening because the
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Senate is using the filibuster. The Democrats are using the
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filibuster to be able to prevent a vote on a
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bill for a continued Continuing resolution to continue to fund
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the government. And people are, of course, you got the
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left that are saying, well, they're in charge of the
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Republicans are in charge of the House, and they're in
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charge of the Senate, and they're in charge of the presidency,
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So how are they not able to pass stuff through
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the through law. Well, you have to look at how
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Congress works and how everything works as a whole within
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the government. When you're talking about a filibuster, it requires
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sixty votes to pass. Well, the Republicans do not have
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a sixty vote majority within the Senate. So that is
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how you get to where we're at now. And really
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we're at a point where this has gone on for
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long enough that it is starting to affect certain programs
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like people who are trying to call in to fix
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their student loans. Student loan services are not answering the
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phones because the govern and it's not funded people who
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are trying to get into WICK programs and stuff like that.
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Trump did say that he's going to move Terra funding
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away from the in diverted into WICK so that way
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people still get their benefits. But at some point in time,
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this shutdown is going to end and there's got to
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be a give on on both sides. We will actually
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address this bill on this podcast because we'll be looking
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at I have to look through the latest iteration of
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the bill, but I look through the October sixth and
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October seventh iterations of the bill that they voted on,
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and I will tell you man, them Democrats are sneaky.
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Their version of the bill sneaks and stuff that tries
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to kneecap the president based on law changing language from
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laws that have been on the books for more than
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fifty to seventy years. They're trying to change language of
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the law from the nineteen fifty. But we will get
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into that in probably tomorrow's podcast. We're gonna try and
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record one more podcast this week, and we're gonna really
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dive into what the bill is saying that the Democrats
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are actually trying to pass because I'm gonna tell you
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right now, the bill that they're trying to pass, it
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is beyond just wasteful spending. It's beyond just the healthcare
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for illegals. They are trying to mess with the powers
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of the executive branch through their bill. The big issue
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is is with this shutdown it began on October first.
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Of course, the White House is additionally frozen twenty six
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billion dollars aimed largely at Democrat leaning states. As of
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right now, he he has opened up and resumed funding
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for anti das terrorism in New York well, because of
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course it's such a huge city and state, and they've
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they've had problems with terrorism in the past through multiple
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bombings of the World Trade Centers and then leading up
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to nine to eleven, so they need to have the
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anti terrorism funding. There's other things that are happening within
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the funding for Blue states that is affecting other things.
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The judiciary sys courts can fund paid operations through Friday,
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October seventeenth using fee balances, after which the civil dockets
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could constrict essential air service subsidies supporting oral flights may
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lapse as soon as Sunday, affecting one hundred and seventy
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seven communities. Wick is likely one to two weeks from
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not being able to pay stuff out. Several states say
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they can't backfill on those obligations, which is not a
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good thing because then that leaves women and children out
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on the line. It's time for the Democrats and Republicans
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they come to the table and let's get this shit
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figured out. Excuse my language, but it's time. It is
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time to get this government going back on the right
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track and stop. There is so much, guys, I have
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to reiterate this. There's wasteful spending in this bill that
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they are still trying to push through. The White House
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warns of mass layoffs that could begin if talkstall, which
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the thing that people don't understand is this Trump could
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use this shutdown to actually shrink our government and to
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actually lower costs and a lot of the different bureaucracies
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and a lot of different branches of our government to
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actually make sure that he vowers are spending. And he
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has all the power to do that. He can furlough
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in fire workers now because there is not funding to
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to fund these different bureaucracies, and he's within his legal
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right to do so. We asked j GPT to give
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us to give us cases, what considered the conservative cases
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and what is considered the liberal case. We're going to
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I will read word for word what it is saying
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for the conservative case, and then I will read word
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for word on the liberal case, and then we're going
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to give input on both because, as we all know,
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Jack GPT is not always right, and depending on how
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you look at it, it's not always unbiased either, because
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it all depends on what information is being fed into
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the program. Spending is the conservative case is spending is
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out of control. Using the leverage is unpleasant but necessary
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to compel reforms, claw back what they view as political
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politicized state subsidies short term pain for long term fiscal guardrails,
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frame leverage as unconstitutional, and Congress appropriates, but the executive
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sets executive priorities with the limits. So actually that last
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part is exactly what I was talking about earlier, where
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they're trying to recap the president because the Congress appropriates,
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but the executive sets execution priorities, so they the president
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is actually able to set if they give a certain
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amount of money to executive branch bureaucracies. He is able
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to move kind of have a little bit more leeway
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and move that funding between some of the like the
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State Department or Usaaid, move money away from that to
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fund other things if he sees it as a big
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issue too much funding moved away does require congressional approval
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to a degree, but he is within his legal right
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to do so for certain things. For the liberal case,
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it says shutdowns are governance failure that inflicts immediate to
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harm on vulnerable families and rural communities in cases of
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Wick and the Air Service and stuff like that. While
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the spending clauses give appropriations power to the congress, executive
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freezes that defining congressional intent flirt with impoundment concerns. So
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again this comes back to what I said earlier about
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the bills that they are trying to pass. Actually is
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trying to recap the president's impoundment clause abilities, and they
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can in the way that he can move money away
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or just not fund certain projects if he sees that
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they don't, they are not going to continue or improve
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the United States for the citizens. The big thing is
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is is this freeze used as leverage, or is it
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actually kind of a smart tactic on the Republican side
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or even the Democrat side to be able to achieve
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they're what they're going after and achieve this less government,
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less spending issue, or or is this going to kind
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of paint us in a corner? And to me to
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a degree, could paint us in a corner. But I
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think that as the United States and and kind of
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in this last election cycle, we saw more and more
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people going away from wanting more and more government spending.
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We saw more and more people wanting a more fiscally
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conservative budget where we're not completely out a deficit in
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allowing inflation or on rampant allowing for money to be
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printed and borrowed like crazy. Because under the four years
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of President Biden, we actually saw the highest purpose president
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uh deficit, like the highest deficit over over a president's
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term under under his leadership. The program Honestly that like
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like if if you could pick one like the first
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program that I probably would would restart back up right
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away when a clean resolution would be passed through. It
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would have to be wick and making sure that the women, infant,
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and children are taken care of, like that that's the
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one program. Kind of where I draw my hard line
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is when that is beginning to be messed with, because
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it's not easy to raise a kid, it's not easy
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to pay for formula and stuff like that, because all
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that went nuts under the last presidency because we allowed
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we were allowed to run on such a high deficit,
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which increased money in circulation and increased inflation. So we're
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never going to see pre Biden prices probably ever again,
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unless we just start burning money at a high rate
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in the Treasury and Federal Reserve. But they will never
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do that because you're never going to see our pool
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of funds start to shrink. The the kind of the
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the next as we're trying to segue into the next topic,
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I talked a little bit earlier about the courts and
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how how this could affect also the other types of
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things that President Trump and in the other the Republicans
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are trying to do and try and kind of kind
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of they consider their mandate by the American citizens is
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the immigration stuff. Because you have pushes for due process,
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and I mean, the problem is this people's definition of
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due process completely varies. I mean, some people think they
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just when they show up in a court and they've
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had their court date, they've been in front of a judge.
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If the judge feels like they should be deported, they
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should be deported right on the spot. They should have
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no chance of appeals. There's other people that think they
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should be able to appeal that decision while being still
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in the United States. But the thing is is all
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that's going to slow down right now because you don't
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have the funding to be able to take care of
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the judiciary. They're only essential to a certain degree, so
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they can keep judicial system funded to a point. But
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once they start running out of fines and running out
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of the money that they generate, is when you start
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seeing dockets slow down. Lust Lust shows up on the docket,
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and the civil side usually slows down before the criminal side.
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So this this kind of segues into our next our
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next topic of the Supreme Court because man the new
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term to open on October sixth, with expecting clashes over
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voting rights, the executive power, tariffs, LGBTQ, plus care and
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conversion therapy bands, emergency orders in the shadow docket quote
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unquote shadow docket remain in their spotlight. Oh so the
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conservative case on this According according to uh chagpt is,
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the court is restoring to textualism and constitutional structure. Emergency
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orders are sometimes required to prevent lower courts whiplash and
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preserve the status quote anti and to me, I mean, well,
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first off, chagpt do a really terrible job of of
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giving the conservative case on this one. The conservative case
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with this really from what I have seen, is conservatives
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believe that the federal a lot of the federal judges
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and stuff are overstepping their boundaries, and they're overstepping like
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the Supreme Court actually kind of decap them, decapp the
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federal judges by making it where you can't do nationwide
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and junctions, you're only allowed to do them within your district,
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which it should have been in the first place, because
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there's no reason why a federal judge in California can
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do an injunction for nationwide for something that people in
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Ohio or Indiana or Iowa really want or really would
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like to see happening in their communities. And off the
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top of my head, I can't really give you a
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specific thing like Iowa is not does not have so
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many crime rate in the cities where I can use
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the National Guard as an example, but the National Guard
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would is is kind of a good example because there's
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there was a national injunction that was trying to stop them. Well,
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then they stopped allowing national injunctions, so now you have them.
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You have these federal federal judges doing it on any
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more districts scale. And in some of these cases, some
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of these people don't like do not feel safe in
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their own cities, so having the National Guard and having
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a more police presence actually makes them feel safer. Other
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people just don't like it because they can't get away
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with with what they normally would. The liberal case on
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this is the shadow dock and enables major policy moves
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without full briefing, signed opinions or undermining the transparency and legitimacy.
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